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# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:33 jperras it usually depends on whether or not you're familiar with calculus or not
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:33 pointlessjon no worries, it's a big internet out there
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:31 jperras not particularly; I took my stats classes in university for a math degree, so I'm not actually sure what they cover in those books.
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:31 pointlessjon any particular recommendations?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon been on the computer too long today ;)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 jperras if you're really interested, there are a few books out there on statistics for programmers
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon err
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:30 pointlessjon the solution gets fuzzy around the solution for me
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:29 pointlessjon yeah the problem is very clear
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:28 jperras I tried to explain it in plain English terms in the wiki, iirc
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:28 jperras yeah, they can be a bit dense in places
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:27 pointlessjon indeed. I tried reading into the articles you linked to but it was beyond me
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 jperras curiosity is mankind's greatest gift ;-)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 pointlessjon i'm mostly asking out of curiousity
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 pointlessjon i see
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:26 jperras really, it's just a mathematical construct to get a more accurate picture
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 pointlessjon right
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras when it should really be closer to 1
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras that outlier actually brings the mean to 1.8
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:25 jperras one person gives it 5 stars (e.g. person who wrote article)
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras 4 give it 1 star
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras 5 people rate an article
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras simple example:
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras pointlessjon: yeah, more like that
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 jperras it's more of a modelization of how a rating system should function, based on a few assumptions
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:24 pointlessjon will it simply be the numeric rating where the solution you were describing is just how we get there, or are we going to be looking more at charts
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:23 jperras we're not really collecting statistics
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:23 pointlessjon at the end of the day, what kind of statistics will we have?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:22 jperras pointlessjon: yup
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:22 pointlessjon yeah let me step back -- you mentioned in the spec some crazy stuff about the ratings
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:22 jperras gwoo: ha
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:22 jperras gaussians and cake?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:22 pointlessjon what time is it anyway, like almost 2am?
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:21 jperras I'm not following
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:21 pointlessjon you're a fiend for the cake
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:20 pointlessjon dude i just don't get gaussian distribution
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:20 gwoo he missed us, all that time with his girlfriend....
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:20 gwoo hah
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 pointlessjon but look how hardcore he is
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 jperras I put a jet in your lag so you can jet while you lag, dawg
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 pointlessjon that's what i was thinking
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 jperras yo
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 gwoo haa
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 gwoo pointlessjon: he probably has some major jetlag
# Jul 22nd 2009, 00:19 pointlessjon jperras: yo dawg
# Jul 21st 2009, 21:20 pointlessjon !log
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:43 pointlessjon we're pretty much on the same page
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:43 ProLoser|Work gotta head out for a bit
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:43 ProLoser|Work and then you would almost use filters
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work i mean my suggestion almost seems like 2 sets of tags
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work honestly how you categorize can be completely arbitrary
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work that too can make a huge impact
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 pointlessjon i totally agree, andat the end of the day it's all user interface
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work it's up to you
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work crap i gotta go
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:42 ProLoser|Work so i suggested layers to create a degree of abstraction
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:41 ProLoser|Work when code/articles/tuts are all on the same topic, i would like to see them close together and easily referenceable
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:41 ProLoser|Work in that way i don't think code/articles/tuts/snippets should be the main heirarchy, cuz i don't like that much separation of content
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:40 ProLoser|Work or similar alternative hypothesis on the subject
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:40 ProLoser|Work i don't like the idea of a working peice of code being all the way in another section from discussion articles that may show what lead up to its creation
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:40 ProLoser|Work i just think when i'm looking at code, i can find nearby the relevent documentation on people who use it, examples of how it was used, or alternatives, snippets that led to it
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:39 ProLoser|Work but that's not the point i'm emphasizing
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:39 ProLoser|Work it's all very github/chaw like
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:39 ProLoser|Work it has a team of people working on it, it has an established code section
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:39 ProLoser|Work this is an example module
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:39 ProLoser|Work i am aiming to become as successful as drupal in this endeavor: http://drupal.org/project/modules?filters=tid:75andsolrsort=sort_title%20asc
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:38 ProLoser|Work well
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:38 pointlessjon I'm not sure I'm doing this justice -- I'll just have to show you something visually -- and perhaps you could do the same?
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:37 ProLoser|Work one-off documents?
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:37 ProLoser|Work i was requestion that they establish a form of linking
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:37 pointlessjon Articles, such as tools, tutorial, snippets, are more like one-off documents
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:37 ProLoser|Work i think that's clear they do not plan to mirror that on bakery 2
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:36 pointlessjon including all those things
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:36 pointlessjon as i understand it, code items are becoming almost like github repos or chaw projects
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:36 ProLoser|Work so that usecases and documentation can be built up around it
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:36 ProLoser|Work i'm saying keep code near it's related articles
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 ProLoser|Work i'm not saying cause ambiguouty by calling everything code
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 ProLoser|Work this is an example of how it's used
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 ProLoser|Work this is the code to use
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 pointlessjon ah yes, code will have that
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 ProLoser|Work 'this is the tutorial
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 ProLoser|Work i know, so clearly break it apart into what is what
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:35 pointlessjon if it's in the article section, that article may contain 'code' in it for purposes of demonstration - but it is not meant to be dropped into an app
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:34 ProLoser|Work it would be nice to see the code, plus a tutorial on how to use it, plus snippets pertaining to the same vendor, plus an example of how it could be used, all be found in the same location
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:34 pointlessjon A content, item, node, etc. that is put in the code section contains portable, usable, stable code
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:34 ProLoser|Work and that's pretty much what we have now in bakery 1
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 ProLoser|Work i thought you conceded that it creates a blob for the other areas that aren't code
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 pointlessjon exactly like the ticket (?)
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 ProLoser|Work so how would you organize them?
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 ProLoser|Work ?
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 pointlessjon err, just aren't
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:33 pointlessjon those are articles with examples of code in them
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 pointlessjon no, those just are categorized as code
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 ProLoser|Work ur leaving those out
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 ProLoser|Work what about articles, tuts, snippets?
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 ProLoser|Work so that's /code/
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 ProLoser|Work okay
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 pointlessjon imho
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 ProLoser|Work component/behavior/helper makes sense for categorization, i just wanted to abstract it so that other items that ARENT code could be categorized in the same way
# Jul 21st 2009, 18:32 pointlessjon right. any code in the code section should be ready to be dropped into an app with little to no code modification, only implementation into your app