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# Dec 13th 2019, 17:29 damiano ah ok!
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:29 challgren Too much 3.x and 4.x code in my head now
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:29 challgren Me? Nope. I even stopped 2.10 support a few months ago
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:28 damiano are you still giving support for cake 1.x ?!!?
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:25 damiano :)
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:18 slackebot Action: challgren hides in corner with all the 1.x talk
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:18 storkovo @admad I can imagine thing like that popping out during 1.x-3.x transition - there was some renaming stuff between 1.2->1.3, and 2.0 had deprecated things from 1.x, plus I am not sure when App::build() was added for paths (it also affected a lot of non-conventional things)
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:11 admad > Support for finding classes in .php files that didn't match their declared names got dropped in that release. Why would one not have their class names match file names?
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:07 slackebot but instead was simply a `model->find` method with `recursive=2` no longer returning the expected results. Imagine finding that particular needle in a much larger haystack of many, many other changes.
# Dec 13th 2019, 17:07 sean.kelly The other reason (for anyone who cares) is that some of the changes between even minor release numbers are subtle but have vast effects. For example, 2.0 to 2.1 claims to be "API compatible" but that should come with an asterisk. Support for finding classes in `.php` files that didn't match their declared names got dropped in that release. The behavior in the application, though, wasn't a warning or a stack trace or any useful diagnostic,
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:53 storkovo to keep your future github templates under your version control
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:52 damiano last stupid question , i promise :) why does .github folder is not in .gitignore?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:47 damiano ok
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:47 ndm `cakephp/app` (the application template) is not `cakephp/cakephp` (the framework), the former is available as 3.8.0, and will require the latest 3.8.x of the latter.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano :|
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano i read 3.8.7 in the composer.json
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano Installing cakephp/app (3.8.0) - Installing cakephp/app (3.8.0): Downloading (100%)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano ok a stupid question...but i am installing cake via cakephp/app why do i see:
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:32 damiano i will use that tool thanks
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano ok
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano yeah i mean the master... "Upgrade tools for CakePHP meant to facilitate migrating from CakePHP 2.x to 3.0.0."
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 challgren https://github.com/cakephp/upgrade/tree/4.x
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano does it iwll be released when cakek 4 will come out ?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 challgren not 3.x to 4.x
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:30 damiano @challgren tool for 2.x to 3.x is still under development :)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 challgren https://github.com/cakephp/upgrade
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 sean.kelly To minimize surprises: it's a huge app, it requires extensive testing with pair of people with QA scripts, because I have zero experience with CakePHP, and barely even more with PHP itself—and the last time I made a big version jump it was an enormous headache. If Paul Hollywood were critiquing it, he'd say it was both overbaked and had a soggy bottom.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 damiano awesome!
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:28 challgren 4 will provide tools to upgrade from 3.8
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:28 ricksaccous that being said I encourage you to use the knew authentication/authorization, it isn't so bad
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous because i know there will be a LOT of changes to start with 4 after it comes out
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous @damiano you'll be good with the latest 3.x i personally don't want to jump to 4 until there are at least a couple versions out
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano *too
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano :)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano oh i am talking about 4.x and there is still discussions on 2.4 :) i think i was going to fast
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous or whatever latest 2.x is
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous because you read the migration notes for each version/etc
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous or are you migrating in small version jumps
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous why not just make the jump to 2.8
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:24 sean.kelly Curiously, the problem seems to be in 2.4.10 itself. If I deploy a raw (sorry, wrong terminology for this group—an "unmodified") Cake app, I gt the same problem. Going to 2.4.9 is fine, though.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:24 sean.kelly @ricksaccous … tried that earlier—big mistake! Going piecemeal resulted in a lot more sanity. Thanks though! ;)