Log message #4218676

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# Dec 13th 2019, 16:52 damiano last stupid question , i promise :) why does .github folder is not in .gitignore?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:47 damiano ok
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:47 ndm `cakephp/app` (the application template) is not `cakephp/cakephp` (the framework), the former is available as 3.8.0, and will require the latest 3.8.x of the latter.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano :|
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano i read 3.8.7 in the composer.json
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano Installing cakephp/app (3.8.0) - Installing cakephp/app (3.8.0): Downloading (100%)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:43 damiano ok a stupid question...but i am installing cake via cakephp/app why do i see:
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:32 damiano i will use that tool thanks
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano ok
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano yeah i mean the master... "Upgrade tools for CakePHP meant to facilitate migrating from CakePHP 2.x to 3.0.0."
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 challgren https://github.com/cakephp/upgrade/tree/4.x
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 damiano does it iwll be released when cakek 4 will come out ?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:31 challgren not 3.x to 4.x
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:30 damiano @challgren tool for 2.x to 3.x is still under development :)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 challgren https://github.com/cakephp/upgrade
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 sean.kelly To minimize surprises: it's a huge app, it requires extensive testing with pair of people with QA scripts, because I have zero experience with CakePHP, and barely even more with PHP itself—and the last time I made a big version jump it was an enormous headache. If Paul Hollywood were critiquing it, he'd say it was both overbaked and had a soggy bottom.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:29 damiano awesome!
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:28 challgren 4 will provide tools to upgrade from 3.8
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:28 ricksaccous that being said I encourage you to use the knew authentication/authorization, it isn't so bad
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous because i know there will be a LOT of changes to start with 4 after it comes out
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous @damiano you'll be good with the latest 3.x i personally don't want to jump to 4 until there are at least a couple versions out
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano *too
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano :)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 damiano oh i am talking about 4.x and there is still discussions on 2.4 :) i think i was going to fast
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:27 ricksaccous or whatever latest 2.x is
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous because you read the migration notes for each version/etc
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous or are you migrating in small version jumps
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:26 ricksaccous why not just make the jump to 2.8
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:24 sean.kelly Curiously, the problem seems to be in 2.4.10 itself. If I deploy a raw (sorry, wrong terminology for this group—an "unmodified") Cake app, I gt the same problem. Going to 2.4.9 is fine, though.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:24 sean.kelly @ricksaccous … tried that earlier—big mistake! Going piecemeal resulted in a lot more sanity. Thanks though! ;)
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:20 damiano thank you!
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:20 damiano yeah ok
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:20 storkovo you will not have to “start it again”, don’t worry :) Right now, you want something you know, is pretty well documented, does have support, and is released as stable version - to get your app out of the door first.
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:18 damiano @storkovo yes you are right i think, i just asked because it is a new project and i hope it will be online for a long time, so starting again in 3 months it is a waste of time ...but, ok, i will go with 3.8
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:16 storkovo yes - and I insist that you do not want to mess with these new approaches (unknown to you ATM) while they are unstable
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:15 damiano now there are plugins, policies etc..
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:15 damiano @storkovo ok but for example i read that for authentication / authorization everything is changed
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:13 storkovo honestly, in measures of 2months projects, I think migration 3=>4 will be piece of cake - build your app with 3.x without usage of deprecated things, and you will be good with smooth transition to 4.x later
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:13 damiano should i rewrite everything... ?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:12 damiano no?
# Dec 13th 2019, 16:12 damiano i read it is not backward compatible, so it sounds dangerous :)