Log message #4198423

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# Aug 15th 2019, 15:06 skor i see there is a Table::addAssociations but no remove, so if i have a predefined assoc, i cant remove it at runtime?
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 ricksaccous alright have a good break
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 ricksaccous @neon1024 how is it a black box when it's open source? lolll
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 neon1024 Rant over, gonna take a break.
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 skor hello everyone! how can i remove an association in cake 3? cant find the method
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 ricksaccous whatever framework/language you use is just a tool to solve a problem
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:05 neon1024 They described Cake as a black box which you pulled a lever and something else happened somewhere else
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 ricksaccous but it's annoying
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 ricksaccous i don't understand all this holier than though stuff among programmers, well i suppose I do
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 neon1024 Yep, by some eejit
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 ricksaccous you were ridiculed at a conference for using cake?
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 ricksaccous lol
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 neon1024 It’s horrible and it’s choices like that which drive that opinion
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:04 neon1024 If you’ve ever been personally ridiculed at a conference for using CakePHP you’ll know what I mean
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 neon1024 Which I’d love to dispel, but I just can’t
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 neon1024 Plus the whole magic thing is an age old critisim of Cake generally
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 ricksaccous i'm just pulling your leg
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 neon1024 Putting middleware in the routes when the other middleware is in Application.php is misleading
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 neon1024 I want ease of installation with an api which is descriptive
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:03 neon1024 I don’t want ease of use
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:02 ricksaccous > wants ease of use >dislikes magic hmmmm
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:02 neon1024 Would not _Token again
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:02 neon1024 Needs work C-
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:02 neon1024 If I can’t get it to work in a few hours, then, to me, it’s not worth using
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:01 neon1024 It’s clearly not easy enough to use yet
# Aug 15th 2019, 15:01 neon1024 I think I’m going to cut my losses and turn off the csrf
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:59 ricksaccous oh supreme wizard guide cake to magical glory
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:57 neon1024 We’re supposed to be getting rid of the magic
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:57 neon1024 I do not like this.
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:57 neon1024 There was me lookin the Application.php and the Princess was in the other castle :face_palm:
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:57 ndm :upside_down_face:
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:56 neon1024 ..and they say Cake is full of Magic!
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:56 neon1024 Surprise middleware
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:56 neon1024 Ah it’s in routes, and not in Application with the other Middleware!
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:55 ndm It doesn't... it couldn't if it wanted to, as the middleware has already run when the controller layer is reached. Look into your routes.
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:55 neon1024 I’ve cleared my app cache too!
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:55 slackebot <neon1024>
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:55 slackebot <neon1024>
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:54 neon1024 It seems that the SecurityComponent adds the CsrfMiddleware for you
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:54 ndm No, `FormHelper::secure()` generates the security component token `_Token`. The CSRF token is unrelated.
# Aug 15th 2019, 14:53 neon1024 I’ll continue to dig around and see what happens :slightly_smiling_face: